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[Veritas-vx] 5.0 -> 5.1 - worth it ?
p***@poczta.fm
2011-03-22 08:37:21 UTC
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Hello,

we have been using 5.0MP3 SFORA (with ODM) for Solaris Sparc for quite a while.
5.1 is available for quite long. Do you recommend upgrade to 5.1 ?
Any features we get by getting 5.1 ?
Is there any white paper about changes (internals ?) ?
And how about stability ?

Regards
Przemyslaw Bak (przemol)
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William Havey
2011-03-22 21:05:22 UTC
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The changes within the latest version of a SYMC product are documented in
the Release Notes for the product. The SF 5.1 SP1 Release Notes doc contains
all the bug fixes, patch issue, and new product features.
https://sort.symantec.com contains all the docs, etc to download. Read the
new features section. Does the local environment need any of the new
features? Should you upgrade? If it is not broken it does not need fixing.
How is Oracle running within your current environment?
Post by p***@poczta.fm
Hello,
we have been using 5.0MP3 SFORA (with ODM) for Solaris Sparc for quite a while.
5.1 is available for quite long. Do you recommend upgrade to 5.1 ?
Any features we get by getting 5.1 ?
Is there any white paper about changes (internals ?) ?
And how about stability ?
Regards
Przemyslaw Bak (przemol)
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Thomas Graham
2011-03-23 02:49:09 UTC
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If it is not broken it does not need fixing <--- well said

filesystem isn't a toy, it will become the leads to get you on fire.

I don't suggest mission critical system to implement latest version of
software. Always consider 1-2version behind the mainline, and wait for
other people to test.
Post by William Havey
The changes within the latest version of a SYMC product are documented in
the Release Notes for the product. The SF 5.1 SP1 Release Notes doc contains
all the bug fixes, patch issue, and new product features.
https://sort.symantec.com contains all the docs, etc to download. Read the
new features section. Does the local environment need any of the new
features? Should you upgrade? If it is not broken it does not need fixing.
How is Oracle running within your current environment?
Post by p***@poczta.fm
Hello,
we have been using 5.0MP3 SFORA (with ODM) for Solaris Sparc for quite a while.
5.1 is available for quite long. Do you recommend upgrade to 5.1 ?
Any features we get by getting 5.1 ?
Is there any white paper about changes (internals ?) ?
And how about stability ?
Regards
Przemyslaw Bak (przemol)
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http://przemol.blogspot.com/
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Hudes, Dana
2011-03-23 04:16:47 UTC
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There are features in the latest VxVM one needs under certain circumstances and cannot do without. These relate to SAN functionality: if you have an up-to-date array delivering your LUNs you will likely find that the older Veritas doesn't work. If you get it to work, it won't be stable. This is most definitely the case with the Oracle Unified Storage series (AKA Sun 7xxx such as 7410) where the necessary APM only works with v5.1 Storage Foundation and at that there are bugs which are fixed so you must use the current RP. If you try it on an older OS release with the back-level version of SF you see your LUNs and you can create volumes and put filesystems on them...and then they go away or get oddly corrupted. So to with the Hitachi 9990V though you don't quite need the very latest RP you will want the APM from 5.1. OTOH, if your shop is still on e.g. a 9990 or Sun StorageTek 6140 then you can indeed get away with v5.0MP3 (until you push it too hard) because those are more 'mature' products (i.e. they already are End Of Sales Life with the countdown to End of Support Life having begun). Maybe you have a 9980 and hanging on past the imminent End Of Support Life, in which case you have bigger issues than which version of Veritas.


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Subject: Re: [Veritas-vx] 5.0 -> 5.1 - worth it ?

If it is not broken it does not need fixing <--- well said

filesystem isn't a toy, it will become the leads to get you on fire.

I don't suggest mission critical system to implement latest version of
software. Always consider 1-2version behind the mainline, and wait for
other people to test.
Post by William Havey
The changes within the latest version of a SYMC product are documented in
the Release Notes for the product. The SF 5.1 SP1 Release Notes doc contains
all the bug fixes, patch issue, and new product features.
https://sort.symantec.com contains all the docs, etc to download. Read the
new features section. Does the local environment need any of the new
features? Should you upgrade? If it is not broken it does not need fixing.
How is Oracle running within your current environment?
Post by p***@poczta.fm
Hello,
we have been using 5.0MP3 SFORA (with ODM) for Solaris Sparc for quite a while.
5.1 is available for quite long. Do you recommend upgrade to 5.1 ?
Any features we get by getting 5.1 ?
Is there any white paper about changes (internals ?) ?
And how about stability ?
Regards
Przemyslaw Bak (przemol)
--
http://przemol.blogspot.com/
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Symantec Certified HA Professional
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Thomas G Lau
Tel: 93239670
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p***@poczta.fm
2011-03-23 08:30:41 UTC
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Post by Thomas Graham
If it is not broken it does not need fixing <--- well said
I absolutely agree :-)
But there some info I had read before about changes in ODM (5.1)
and I cannot find the presentation about it.
In general I am always ineterested in technical internals
so that is I asked this question.
I don't want to upgrade at the moment. But in the future - who knows ;-)

Regards
Przemek


























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